#40617: "poor position of map target for cubes"
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• Kui näed ekraanil veateadet, kopeeri see siia.
the map target for placing cubes is the center of each segment. these points are also used for drawing the path taken by the car (a nice touch). This gives false impression of progress at times when two adjacent segments are of different length. This also causes some traced paths to be "S-shaped".
Getting into a segment really means you are at the _end_ of that segment, and the cube should be shown there. Please adjust map targets for each segment to be just shy of the ending line. -
• Kirjelda, mida sa soovisid teha, mida sa tegid ja mis juhtus
• mis on sinu veebilehitseja?
Mozilla v5
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• Palun kopeeri/kleebi kuvatud tekst inglise keeles, mitte sinu oma keeles. Kui sul on sellest veast ekraanipilt (hea tava), saad kasutada Imgur.com selle üleslaadimiseks ja lingi siia kopeerida.
the map target for placing cubes is the center of each segment. these points are also used for drawing the path taken by the car (a nice touch). This gives false impression of progress at times when two adjacent segments are of different length. This also causes some traced paths to be "S-shaped".
Getting into a segment really means you are at the _end_ of that segment, and the cube should be shown there. Please adjust map targets for each segment to be just shy of the ending line. -
• Kas see tekst on kättesaadav tõlkesüsteemis ? Kui jah, kas see on tõlgitud rohkem kui 24 tundi tagasi?
• mis on sinu veebilehitseja?
Mozilla v5
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• Palun selgita oma ettepanekut täpselt ja lühidalt, et oleks võimalikult lihtne mõista, mida silmas pead.
the map target for placing cubes is the center of each segment. these points are also used for drawing the path taken by the car (a nice touch). This gives false impression of progress at times when two adjacent segments are of different length. This also causes some traced paths to be "S-shaped".
Getting into a segment really means you are at the _end_ of that segment, and the cube should be shown there. Please adjust map targets for each segment to be just shy of the ending line. • mis on sinu veebilehitseja?
Mozilla v5
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• Mis oli ekraanil, kui sind blokeeriti? (Tühi ekraan? Osa mänguliidesest? Veateade?)
the map target for placing cubes is the center of each segment. these points are also used for drawing the path taken by the car (a nice touch). This gives false impression of progress at times when two adjacent segments are of different length. This also causes some traced paths to be "S-shaped".
Getting into a segment really means you are at the _end_ of that segment, and the cube should be shown there. Please adjust map targets for each segment to be just shy of the ending line. • mis on sinu veebilehitseja?
Mozilla v5
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• Millist osa BGA kohandamisest ei järgitud
the map target for placing cubes is the center of each segment. these points are also used for drawing the path taken by the car (a nice touch). This gives false impression of progress at times when two adjacent segments are of different length. This also causes some traced paths to be "S-shaped".
Getting into a segment really means you are at the _end_ of that segment, and the cube should be shown there. Please adjust map targets for each segment to be just shy of the ending line. -
• Kas reeglite rikkumist on mängu taasesitusel näha? Kui jah, siis mitmendal käigul?
• mis on sinu veebilehitseja?
Mozilla v5
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• Milline oli mängu tegevus, mida tahtsid sooritada?
the map target for placing cubes is the center of each segment. these points are also used for drawing the path taken by the car (a nice touch). This gives false impression of progress at times when two adjacent segments are of different length. This also causes some traced paths to be "S-shaped".
Getting into a segment really means you are at the _end_ of that segment, and the cube should be shown there. Please adjust map targets for each segment to be just shy of the ending line. -
• Mida püüdsid teha, et seda mängu tegevust käivitada?
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• Mis juhtus, kui seda proovisite (veateade, mängu olekuriba teade, ...)?
• mis on sinu veebilehitseja?
Mozilla v5
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• Millises mängu etapis esines probleem (Mis oli selle mänguetapi instruktsioon)?
the map target for placing cubes is the center of each segment. these points are also used for drawing the path taken by the car (a nice touch). This gives false impression of progress at times when two adjacent segments are of different length. This also causes some traced paths to be "S-shaped".
Getting into a segment really means you are at the _end_ of that segment, and the cube should be shown there. Please adjust map targets for each segment to be just shy of the ending line. -
• Mis juhtus, kui proovisite sooritada seda mängu käiku (veateade, mängu olekuriba sõnum, ...)?
• mis on sinu veebilehitseja?
Mozilla v5
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• Kirjelda kuvamise probleemi. Kui sul on sellest veast ekraanipilt (hea tava), saad kasutada Imgur.com selle üleslaadimiseks ja lingi siia kopeerida.
the map target for placing cubes is the center of each segment. these points are also used for drawing the path taken by the car (a nice touch). This gives false impression of progress at times when two adjacent segments are of different length. This also causes some traced paths to be "S-shaped".
Getting into a segment really means you are at the _end_ of that segment, and the cube should be shown there. Please adjust map targets for each segment to be just shy of the ending line. • mis on sinu veebilehitseja?
Mozilla v5
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• Palun kopeeri/kleebi kuvatud tekst inglise keeles, mitte sinu oma keeles. Kui sul on sellest veast ekraanipilt (hea tava), saad kasutada Imgur.com selle üleslaadimiseks ja lingi siia kopeerida.
the map target for placing cubes is the center of each segment. these points are also used for drawing the path taken by the car (a nice touch). This gives false impression of progress at times when two adjacent segments are of different length. This also causes some traced paths to be "S-shaped".
Getting into a segment really means you are at the _end_ of that segment, and the cube should be shown there. Please adjust map targets for each segment to be just shy of the ending line. -
• Kas see tekst on kättesaadav tõlkesüsteemis ? Kui jah, kas see on tõlgitud rohkem kui 24 tundi tagasi?
• mis on sinu veebilehitseja?
Mozilla v5
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• Palun selgita oma ettepanekut täpselt ja lühidalt, et oleks võimalikult lihtne mõista, mida silmas pead.
the map target for placing cubes is the center of each segment. these points are also used for drawing the path taken by the car (a nice touch). This gives false impression of progress at times when two adjacent segments are of different length. This also causes some traced paths to be "S-shaped".
Getting into a segment really means you are at the _end_ of that segment, and the cube should be shown there. Please adjust map targets for each segment to be just shy of the ending line. • mis on sinu veebilehitseja?
Mozilla v5
Aruande ajalugu
I understand your point fully, but the reason I've gone with aiming for the centre of segments and not the front of them comes down to this being a simulation of a boardgame and not a simulation of a car race.
That is: if we were developing an online car race simulation, we'd DEFINITELY have the cars and cubes up against the front lines as you say. But we're instead simulating the experience of playing the boardgame (albeit with some nifty helps like snail trails, which are mainly to help people cope with the the turn-based nature of online play). When people play the boardgame, there is a tendency (obviously this is a generalisation) to put pieces roughly in the middle of the spaces rather than to move them to the front. It's nice, clean, easy to track and looks good and balanced.
That's what we're aiming for here.
I understand that it occasionally turns up some odd results with the snail trails, which for me is the strongest argument for "that's a bit suboptimal", but I don't consider that to be an actual problem: again, the snail trails are to assist players in getting a quick glance at who has moved where since their last turn, and in that regard they work fine: they're not intended to be a simulation of exactly how the car moved.
If I was hearing that the "cubes and cars in the middle of squares" approach was causing actual confusion, I'd give changing some serious consideration, but I haven't had that reported as being a problem. The abstraction of having cars and cubes appear in the middle of squares (including some curvy snail trails as a result) seems to not be causing any uncertainty or mistakes, so the decision between having cars and cubes at the front of or middle of segments is essentially a stylistic one.
I've checked all of this past David Short (the game designer) and he (like me) also fully understands the argument you're making, but is also happy to continue with the current approach.
Thanks again! I'll let you know if thoughts change.
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