#31816: "Non elimination tournaments results:tiebreaks should be based on head-to-head results where possible"
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• Kui näed ekraanil veateadet, kopeeri see siia.
Currently ties at the end of round robin (& Swiss) tournaments appear to be broken by how long a person has had a BGA account.
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• Kirjelda, mida sa soovisid teha, mida sa tegid ja mis juhtus
• mis on sinu veebilehitseja?
Google Chrome v87
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• Palun kopeeri/kleebi kuvatud tekst inglise keeles, mitte sinu oma keeles. Kui sul on sellest veast kuvatõmmis (hea tava), saad kasutada nimetatud teenuseid (snipboard.io for example) pildi üleslaadimiseks ja kopeerida viite siia. Kas see tekst on kättesaadav tõlkesüsteemis ? Kui jah, kas see on tõlgitud rohkem kui 24 tundi tagasi?
Currently ties at the end of round robin (& Swiss) tournaments appear to be broken by how long a person has had a BGA account.
• mis on sinu veebilehitseja?
Google Chrome v87
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• Palun selgita oma ettepanekut täpselt ja lühidalt, et oleks võimalikult lihtne mõista, mida silmas pead.
Currently ties at the end of round robin (& Swiss) tournaments appear to be broken by how long a person has had a BGA account.
• mis on sinu veebilehitseja?
Google Chrome v87
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• Mis oli ekraanil, kui sind blokeeriti? (Tühi ekraan? Osa mänguliidesest? Veateade?)
Currently ties at the end of round robin (& Swiss) tournaments appear to be broken by how long a person has had a BGA account.
• mis on sinu veebilehitseja?
Google Chrome v87
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• Millist osa BGA kohandamisest ei järgitud
Currently ties at the end of round robin (& Swiss) tournaments appear to be broken by how long a person has had a BGA account.
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• Kas reeglite rikkumist on mängu taasesitusel näha? Kui jah, siis mitmendal käigul?
• mis on sinu veebilehitseja?
Google Chrome v87
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• Milline oli mängu tegevus, mida tahtsid sooritada?
Currently ties at the end of round robin (& Swiss) tournaments appear to be broken by how long a person has had a BGA account.
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• Mida püüdsid teha, et seda mängu tegevust käivitada?
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• Mis juhtus, kui seda proovisite (veateade, mängu olekuriba teade, ...)?
• mis on sinu veebilehitseja?
Google Chrome v87
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• Millises mängu etapis esines probleem (Mis oli selle mänguetapi instruktsioon)?
Currently ties at the end of round robin (& Swiss) tournaments appear to be broken by how long a person has had a BGA account.
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• Mis juhtus, kui proovisite sooritada seda mängu käiku (veateade, mängu olekuriba sõnum, ...)?
• mis on sinu veebilehitseja?
Google Chrome v87
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• Kirjelda kuvamise probleemi. Kui sul on sellest veast kuvatõmmis (hea tava), saad kasutada nimetatud teenuseid (snipboard.io for example) pildi üleslaadimiseks ja kopeerida viite siia.
Currently ties at the end of round robin (& Swiss) tournaments appear to be broken by how long a person has had a BGA account.
• mis on sinu veebilehitseja?
Google Chrome v87
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• Palun kopeeri/kleebi kuvatud tekst inglise keeles, mitte sinu oma keeles. Kui sul on sellest veast kuvatõmmis (hea tava), saad kasutada nimetatud teenuseid (snipboard.io for example) pildi üleslaadimiseks ja kopeerida viite siia. Kas see tekst on kättesaadav tõlkesüsteemis ? Kui jah, kas see on tõlgitud rohkem kui 24 tundi tagasi?
Currently ties at the end of round robin (& Swiss) tournaments appear to be broken by how long a person has had a BGA account.
• mis on sinu veebilehitseja?
Google Chrome v87
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• Palun selgita oma ettepanekut täpselt ja lühidalt, et oleks võimalikult lihtne mõista, mida silmas pead.
Currently ties at the end of round robin (& Swiss) tournaments appear to be broken by how long a person has had a BGA account.
• mis on sinu veebilehitseja?
Google Chrome v87
Aruande ajalugu
After head-to-head there should be a penalty to losses that were timeout rather than completed. Whoever has less timeout loss wins breaker.
Final breaker should be score difference, as currently implemented, but have any players that lost on timeout highly penalized because it could be considered as "cheating" to optimize the score difference by losing by only 1 instead of by 20 for example.
1. Total points (obviously)
2. Tie-breaker 1: Buchholz -- "the sum of the raw scores of the opponents played is used to break ties." -- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buchholz_system
3. Tie-breaker 2: Average ELO of opponents
A lot of threads suggest a final tie-breaker of "age of account" exists, and, yeah, I suppose there has to be _something_ when it's "top 4 advance" as in boardgamearena.com/tournament?id=513620
I did the math on my current in progress step of that tournament (boardgamearena.com/tournament?id=520423#stage_display), though, and it does not as of right now (step 2 is complete, step 3 is partially complete) follow the algorithm above. The players tied at 2 points and 1 point, as of right now, are not ordered in the ranks by their Buchholz tie-breaker score. I have not checked average ELO to see if that is actually applied first, which would be an odd choice.
I suppose it is possible that tie-breakers are only recalculated at the end of a step, at the matchmaking stage, and the order of players will be updated.
It would be nice if BGG would just publish somewhere what the procedure is. I don't care what they do, but just... write it down... to put an end to all the speculating? Include the tie-breaker points in the stats table with a breakdown of where they came from, or something. Oh, well.
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- Kui sul on sellest veast kuvatõmmis (hea tava), saad kasutada nimetatud teenuseid (snipboard.io for example) pildi üleslaadimiseks ja kopeerida viite siia.
