#21686: "Selector for number of meeples is misleading; replace with different selector widget"
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• Kui näed ekraanil veateadet, kopeeri see siia.
When you click on a tile to bid on or activate it, a dialog comes up to select the number and colour of the meeples that you mean to use. Its layout visually suggests the physical meeples that you might have behind your screen; but if you "pull a single meeple from the right end of the line", as many of us would do in a physical game, what the interface does is use *all* of your meeples, because rather than corresponding to single physical meeple (as the interface visually suggests), each meeple icon corresponds to a different *number* of meeples.
This is listed as a "suggestion" but really rises to the level of a UI bug---four of the five players in my game last night did this at least once, each time quite sure they'd only grabbed one meeple (and quite upset that this had thus messed up their board position due to wasted meeples). The fifth player said at one point, "yes, I've played this game dozens of times on BGA and I still do that by accident sometimes".
There are many possible fixes. E.g.:
1) If the number selected represents an overbid of more than 1 (e.g. clicking 2 on an empty tile, or 3 on a tile with only 1 meeple so far), request confirmation from the user. It's perfectly valid to overbid and sometimes it's intentional, but it's also not the usual case so it's ok to ask for confirmation.
2) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [1] [2] [3] ... i.e. only have the meeple icon there to show the colour, then click on a square button with a number in it to say how many. This divorces the visual interface from a physical representation so you won't subconsciously "grab the rightmost meeple".
3) Change the interface so that each meeple-with-number shows a stack beneath it with that many meeples in it. Again, divorcing it a little from the physical representation of "row of meeples" and changing it to "how big of a stack of meeples to select".
4) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [pulldown] [OK] so that you can pull down to the number of meeples you want to place---defaulting to 1 if the tile is unselected or the minimum useful number if this is an overbid/reactivation (e.g. default to 3 if there are already 2 meeples on the tile).
Or something else! Many other interfaces would not have the problems that the current one has. -
• Kirjelda, mida sa soovisid teha, mida sa tegid ja mis juhtus
• mis on sinu veebilehitseja?
Safari v11.1
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• Palun kopeeri/kleebi kuvatud tekst inglise keeles, mitte sinu oma keeles. Kui sul on sellest veast ekraanipilt (hea tava), saad kasutada Imgur.com selle üleslaadimiseks ja lingi siia kopeerida.
When you click on a tile to bid on or activate it, a dialog comes up to select the number and colour of the meeples that you mean to use. Its layout visually suggests the physical meeples that you might have behind your screen; but if you "pull a single meeple from the right end of the line", as many of us would do in a physical game, what the interface does is use *all* of your meeples, because rather than corresponding to single physical meeple (as the interface visually suggests), each meeple icon corresponds to a different *number* of meeples.
This is listed as a "suggestion" but really rises to the level of a UI bug---four of the five players in my game last night did this at least once, each time quite sure they'd only grabbed one meeple (and quite upset that this had thus messed up their board position due to wasted meeples). The fifth player said at one point, "yes, I've played this game dozens of times on BGA and I still do that by accident sometimes".
There are many possible fixes. E.g.:
1) If the number selected represents an overbid of more than 1 (e.g. clicking 2 on an empty tile, or 3 on a tile with only 1 meeple so far), request confirmation from the user. It's perfectly valid to overbid and sometimes it's intentional, but it's also not the usual case so it's ok to ask for confirmation.
2) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [1] [2] [3] ... i.e. only have the meeple icon there to show the colour, then click on a square button with a number in it to say how many. This divorces the visual interface from a physical representation so you won't subconsciously "grab the rightmost meeple".
3) Change the interface so that each meeple-with-number shows a stack beneath it with that many meeples in it. Again, divorcing it a little from the physical representation of "row of meeples" and changing it to "how big of a stack of meeples to select".
4) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [pulldown] [OK] so that you can pull down to the number of meeples you want to place---defaulting to 1 if the tile is unselected or the minimum useful number if this is an overbid/reactivation (e.g. default to 3 if there are already 2 meeples on the tile).
Or something else! Many other interfaces would not have the problems that the current one has. -
• Kas see tekst on kättesaadav tõlkesüsteemis ? Kui jah, kas see on tõlgitud rohkem kui 24 tundi tagasi?
• mis on sinu veebilehitseja?
Safari v11.1
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• Palun selgita oma ettepanekut täpselt ja lühidalt, et oleks võimalikult lihtne mõista, mida silmas pead.
When you click on a tile to bid on or activate it, a dialog comes up to select the number and colour of the meeples that you mean to use. Its layout visually suggests the physical meeples that you might have behind your screen; but if you "pull a single meeple from the right end of the line", as many of us would do in a physical game, what the interface does is use *all* of your meeples, because rather than corresponding to single physical meeple (as the interface visually suggests), each meeple icon corresponds to a different *number* of meeples.
This is listed as a "suggestion" but really rises to the level of a UI bug---four of the five players in my game last night did this at least once, each time quite sure they'd only grabbed one meeple (and quite upset that this had thus messed up their board position due to wasted meeples). The fifth player said at one point, "yes, I've played this game dozens of times on BGA and I still do that by accident sometimes".
There are many possible fixes. E.g.:
1) If the number selected represents an overbid of more than 1 (e.g. clicking 2 on an empty tile, or 3 on a tile with only 1 meeple so far), request confirmation from the user. It's perfectly valid to overbid and sometimes it's intentional, but it's also not the usual case so it's ok to ask for confirmation.
2) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [1] [2] [3] ... i.e. only have the meeple icon there to show the colour, then click on a square button with a number in it to say how many. This divorces the visual interface from a physical representation so you won't subconsciously "grab the rightmost meeple".
3) Change the interface so that each meeple-with-number shows a stack beneath it with that many meeples in it. Again, divorcing it a little from the physical representation of "row of meeples" and changing it to "how big of a stack of meeples to select".
4) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [pulldown] [OK] so that you can pull down to the number of meeples you want to place---defaulting to 1 if the tile is unselected or the minimum useful number if this is an overbid/reactivation (e.g. default to 3 if there are already 2 meeples on the tile).
Or something else! Many other interfaces would not have the problems that the current one has. • mis on sinu veebilehitseja?
Safari v11.1
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• Mis oli ekraanil, kui sind blokeeriti? (Tühi ekraan? Osa mänguliidesest? Veateade?)
When you click on a tile to bid on or activate it, a dialog comes up to select the number and colour of the meeples that you mean to use. Its layout visually suggests the physical meeples that you might have behind your screen; but if you "pull a single meeple from the right end of the line", as many of us would do in a physical game, what the interface does is use *all* of your meeples, because rather than corresponding to single physical meeple (as the interface visually suggests), each meeple icon corresponds to a different *number* of meeples.
This is listed as a "suggestion" but really rises to the level of a UI bug---four of the five players in my game last night did this at least once, each time quite sure they'd only grabbed one meeple (and quite upset that this had thus messed up their board position due to wasted meeples). The fifth player said at one point, "yes, I've played this game dozens of times on BGA and I still do that by accident sometimes".
There are many possible fixes. E.g.:
1) If the number selected represents an overbid of more than 1 (e.g. clicking 2 on an empty tile, or 3 on a tile with only 1 meeple so far), request confirmation from the user. It's perfectly valid to overbid and sometimes it's intentional, but it's also not the usual case so it's ok to ask for confirmation.
2) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [1] [2] [3] ... i.e. only have the meeple icon there to show the colour, then click on a square button with a number in it to say how many. This divorces the visual interface from a physical representation so you won't subconsciously "grab the rightmost meeple".
3) Change the interface so that each meeple-with-number shows a stack beneath it with that many meeples in it. Again, divorcing it a little from the physical representation of "row of meeples" and changing it to "how big of a stack of meeples to select".
4) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [pulldown] [OK] so that you can pull down to the number of meeples you want to place---defaulting to 1 if the tile is unselected or the minimum useful number if this is an overbid/reactivation (e.g. default to 3 if there are already 2 meeples on the tile).
Or something else! Many other interfaces would not have the problems that the current one has. • mis on sinu veebilehitseja?
Safari v11.1
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• Millist osa BGA kohandamisest ei järgitud
When you click on a tile to bid on or activate it, a dialog comes up to select the number and colour of the meeples that you mean to use. Its layout visually suggests the physical meeples that you might have behind your screen; but if you "pull a single meeple from the right end of the line", as many of us would do in a physical game, what the interface does is use *all* of your meeples, because rather than corresponding to single physical meeple (as the interface visually suggests), each meeple icon corresponds to a different *number* of meeples.
This is listed as a "suggestion" but really rises to the level of a UI bug---four of the five players in my game last night did this at least once, each time quite sure they'd only grabbed one meeple (and quite upset that this had thus messed up their board position due to wasted meeples). The fifth player said at one point, "yes, I've played this game dozens of times on BGA and I still do that by accident sometimes".
There are many possible fixes. E.g.:
1) If the number selected represents an overbid of more than 1 (e.g. clicking 2 on an empty tile, or 3 on a tile with only 1 meeple so far), request confirmation from the user. It's perfectly valid to overbid and sometimes it's intentional, but it's also not the usual case so it's ok to ask for confirmation.
2) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [1] [2] [3] ... i.e. only have the meeple icon there to show the colour, then click on a square button with a number in it to say how many. This divorces the visual interface from a physical representation so you won't subconsciously "grab the rightmost meeple".
3) Change the interface so that each meeple-with-number shows a stack beneath it with that many meeples in it. Again, divorcing it a little from the physical representation of "row of meeples" and changing it to "how big of a stack of meeples to select".
4) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [pulldown] [OK] so that you can pull down to the number of meeples you want to place---defaulting to 1 if the tile is unselected or the minimum useful number if this is an overbid/reactivation (e.g. default to 3 if there are already 2 meeples on the tile).
Or something else! Many other interfaces would not have the problems that the current one has. -
• Kas reeglite rikkumist on mängu taasesitusel näha? Kui jah, siis mitmendal käigul?
• mis on sinu veebilehitseja?
Safari v11.1
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• Milline oli mängu tegevus, mida tahtsid sooritada?
When you click on a tile to bid on or activate it, a dialog comes up to select the number and colour of the meeples that you mean to use. Its layout visually suggests the physical meeples that you might have behind your screen; but if you "pull a single meeple from the right end of the line", as many of us would do in a physical game, what the interface does is use *all* of your meeples, because rather than corresponding to single physical meeple (as the interface visually suggests), each meeple icon corresponds to a different *number* of meeples.
This is listed as a "suggestion" but really rises to the level of a UI bug---four of the five players in my game last night did this at least once, each time quite sure they'd only grabbed one meeple (and quite upset that this had thus messed up their board position due to wasted meeples). The fifth player said at one point, "yes, I've played this game dozens of times on BGA and I still do that by accident sometimes".
There are many possible fixes. E.g.:
1) If the number selected represents an overbid of more than 1 (e.g. clicking 2 on an empty tile, or 3 on a tile with only 1 meeple so far), request confirmation from the user. It's perfectly valid to overbid and sometimes it's intentional, but it's also not the usual case so it's ok to ask for confirmation.
2) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [1] [2] [3] ... i.e. only have the meeple icon there to show the colour, then click on a square button with a number in it to say how many. This divorces the visual interface from a physical representation so you won't subconsciously "grab the rightmost meeple".
3) Change the interface so that each meeple-with-number shows a stack beneath it with that many meeples in it. Again, divorcing it a little from the physical representation of "row of meeples" and changing it to "how big of a stack of meeples to select".
4) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [pulldown] [OK] so that you can pull down to the number of meeples you want to place---defaulting to 1 if the tile is unselected or the minimum useful number if this is an overbid/reactivation (e.g. default to 3 if there are already 2 meeples on the tile).
Or something else! Many other interfaces would not have the problems that the current one has. -
• Mida püüdsid teha, et seda mängu tegevust käivitada?
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• Mis juhtus, kui seda proovisite (veateade, mängu olekuriba teade, ...)?
• mis on sinu veebilehitseja?
Safari v11.1
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• Millises mängu etapis esines probleem (Mis oli selle mänguetapi instruktsioon)?
When you click on a tile to bid on or activate it, a dialog comes up to select the number and colour of the meeples that you mean to use. Its layout visually suggests the physical meeples that you might have behind your screen; but if you "pull a single meeple from the right end of the line", as many of us would do in a physical game, what the interface does is use *all* of your meeples, because rather than corresponding to single physical meeple (as the interface visually suggests), each meeple icon corresponds to a different *number* of meeples.
This is listed as a "suggestion" but really rises to the level of a UI bug---four of the five players in my game last night did this at least once, each time quite sure they'd only grabbed one meeple (and quite upset that this had thus messed up their board position due to wasted meeples). The fifth player said at one point, "yes, I've played this game dozens of times on BGA and I still do that by accident sometimes".
There are many possible fixes. E.g.:
1) If the number selected represents an overbid of more than 1 (e.g. clicking 2 on an empty tile, or 3 on a tile with only 1 meeple so far), request confirmation from the user. It's perfectly valid to overbid and sometimes it's intentional, but it's also not the usual case so it's ok to ask for confirmation.
2) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [1] [2] [3] ... i.e. only have the meeple icon there to show the colour, then click on a square button with a number in it to say how many. This divorces the visual interface from a physical representation so you won't subconsciously "grab the rightmost meeple".
3) Change the interface so that each meeple-with-number shows a stack beneath it with that many meeples in it. Again, divorcing it a little from the physical representation of "row of meeples" and changing it to "how big of a stack of meeples to select".
4) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [pulldown] [OK] so that you can pull down to the number of meeples you want to place---defaulting to 1 if the tile is unselected or the minimum useful number if this is an overbid/reactivation (e.g. default to 3 if there are already 2 meeples on the tile).
Or something else! Many other interfaces would not have the problems that the current one has. -
• Mis juhtus, kui proovisite sooritada seda mängu käiku (veateade, mängu olekuriba sõnum, ...)?
• mis on sinu veebilehitseja?
Safari v11.1
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• Kirjelda kuvamise probleemi. Kui sul on sellest veast ekraanipilt (hea tava), saad kasutada Imgur.com selle üleslaadimiseks ja lingi siia kopeerida.
When you click on a tile to bid on or activate it, a dialog comes up to select the number and colour of the meeples that you mean to use. Its layout visually suggests the physical meeples that you might have behind your screen; but if you "pull a single meeple from the right end of the line", as many of us would do in a physical game, what the interface does is use *all* of your meeples, because rather than corresponding to single physical meeple (as the interface visually suggests), each meeple icon corresponds to a different *number* of meeples.
This is listed as a "suggestion" but really rises to the level of a UI bug---four of the five players in my game last night did this at least once, each time quite sure they'd only grabbed one meeple (and quite upset that this had thus messed up their board position due to wasted meeples). The fifth player said at one point, "yes, I've played this game dozens of times on BGA and I still do that by accident sometimes".
There are many possible fixes. E.g.:
1) If the number selected represents an overbid of more than 1 (e.g. clicking 2 on an empty tile, or 3 on a tile with only 1 meeple so far), request confirmation from the user. It's perfectly valid to overbid and sometimes it's intentional, but it's also not the usual case so it's ok to ask for confirmation.
2) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [1] [2] [3] ... i.e. only have the meeple icon there to show the colour, then click on a square button with a number in it to say how many. This divorces the visual interface from a physical representation so you won't subconsciously "grab the rightmost meeple".
3) Change the interface so that each meeple-with-number shows a stack beneath it with that many meeples in it. Again, divorcing it a little from the physical representation of "row of meeples" and changing it to "how big of a stack of meeples to select".
4) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [pulldown] [OK] so that you can pull down to the number of meeples you want to place---defaulting to 1 if the tile is unselected or the minimum useful number if this is an overbid/reactivation (e.g. default to 3 if there are already 2 meeples on the tile).
Or something else! Many other interfaces would not have the problems that the current one has. • mis on sinu veebilehitseja?
Safari v11.1
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• Palun kopeeri/kleebi kuvatud tekst inglise keeles, mitte sinu oma keeles. Kui sul on sellest veast ekraanipilt (hea tava), saad kasutada Imgur.com selle üleslaadimiseks ja lingi siia kopeerida.
When you click on a tile to bid on or activate it, a dialog comes up to select the number and colour of the meeples that you mean to use. Its layout visually suggests the physical meeples that you might have behind your screen; but if you "pull a single meeple from the right end of the line", as many of us would do in a physical game, what the interface does is use *all* of your meeples, because rather than corresponding to single physical meeple (as the interface visually suggests), each meeple icon corresponds to a different *number* of meeples.
This is listed as a "suggestion" but really rises to the level of a UI bug---four of the five players in my game last night did this at least once, each time quite sure they'd only grabbed one meeple (and quite upset that this had thus messed up their board position due to wasted meeples). The fifth player said at one point, "yes, I've played this game dozens of times on BGA and I still do that by accident sometimes".
There are many possible fixes. E.g.:
1) If the number selected represents an overbid of more than 1 (e.g. clicking 2 on an empty tile, or 3 on a tile with only 1 meeple so far), request confirmation from the user. It's perfectly valid to overbid and sometimes it's intentional, but it's also not the usual case so it's ok to ask for confirmation.
2) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [1] [2] [3] ... i.e. only have the meeple icon there to show the colour, then click on a square button with a number in it to say how many. This divorces the visual interface from a physical representation so you won't subconsciously "grab the rightmost meeple".
3) Change the interface so that each meeple-with-number shows a stack beneath it with that many meeples in it. Again, divorcing it a little from the physical representation of "row of meeples" and changing it to "how big of a stack of meeples to select".
4) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [pulldown] [OK] so that you can pull down to the number of meeples you want to place---defaulting to 1 if the tile is unselected or the minimum useful number if this is an overbid/reactivation (e.g. default to 3 if there are already 2 meeples on the tile).
Or something else! Many other interfaces would not have the problems that the current one has. -
• Kas see tekst on kättesaadav tõlkesüsteemis ? Kui jah, kas see on tõlgitud rohkem kui 24 tundi tagasi?
• mis on sinu veebilehitseja?
Safari v11.1
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• Palun selgita oma ettepanekut täpselt ja lühidalt, et oleks võimalikult lihtne mõista, mida silmas pead.
When you click on a tile to bid on or activate it, a dialog comes up to select the number and colour of the meeples that you mean to use. Its layout visually suggests the physical meeples that you might have behind your screen; but if you "pull a single meeple from the right end of the line", as many of us would do in a physical game, what the interface does is use *all* of your meeples, because rather than corresponding to single physical meeple (as the interface visually suggests), each meeple icon corresponds to a different *number* of meeples.
This is listed as a "suggestion" but really rises to the level of a UI bug---four of the five players in my game last night did this at least once, each time quite sure they'd only grabbed one meeple (and quite upset that this had thus messed up their board position due to wasted meeples). The fifth player said at one point, "yes, I've played this game dozens of times on BGA and I still do that by accident sometimes".
There are many possible fixes. E.g.:
1) If the number selected represents an overbid of more than 1 (e.g. clicking 2 on an empty tile, or 3 on a tile with only 1 meeple so far), request confirmation from the user. It's perfectly valid to overbid and sometimes it's intentional, but it's also not the usual case so it's ok to ask for confirmation.
2) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [1] [2] [3] ... i.e. only have the meeple icon there to show the colour, then click on a square button with a number in it to say how many. This divorces the visual interface from a physical representation so you won't subconsciously "grab the rightmost meeple".
3) Change the interface so that each meeple-with-number shows a stack beneath it with that many meeples in it. Again, divorcing it a little from the physical representation of "row of meeples" and changing it to "how big of a stack of meeples to select".
4) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [pulldown] [OK] so that you can pull down to the number of meeples you want to place---defaulting to 1 if the tile is unselected or the minimum useful number if this is an overbid/reactivation (e.g. default to 3 if there are already 2 meeples on the tile).
Or something else! Many other interfaces would not have the problems that the current one has. • mis on sinu veebilehitseja?
Safari v11.1
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